[ru] Repost R>E is there a "libo" missing?

[elliott_urdang]

Hello, colleagues!

I have two questions relating to a medical article I'm translating.

One is syntax-related. Is there something missing from the following
sentence?

AS WRITTEN:

Таким образом, избыточное снижение АД в начальном периоде приема
антиангиального препарата было сопряжено в дальнейшем с увеличением
числа безболевых эпизодов ишемии миокарда на 2 и более (χ2=32.2864;
&#957;=1; p<0.001) &#1083;&#1080;&#1073;&#1086; &#1085;&#1072; 3 &#1080; &#1073;&#1086;&#1083;&#1077;&#1077; (&#967;2 = 9.2564; &#957;=1; p<0.01).


I suspect there is a &#1083;&#1080;&#1073;&#1086; missing - but if so, I'm not
clear where it would go.

I also suspect - but am not at all sure -that the intended meaning
would be:

Thus, excessive BP reduction in the initial period of use of an
antianginal drug was associated subsequently with an increase in the
number of painless episodes of myocardial ischemia not only by 2 or
more episodes (&#967;2=1; &#957;=1; p<0.001), but by 3 or more episodes
(&#967;2 = 9.2564; &#957;=1; p<0.01) as well.

I would appreciate your insights.

Thanks.

Elliott

Elliott Urdang





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[Natalie Shahova]

Эллиотт, ваши тексты приходят в руслантру в кодировке ISO.
Попробуйте не мешать латиницу с кириллицей, а прислать только русский текст
в кодировке KOI-8 (кстати, мне ваши тексты всегда приходится
перекодировать, иначе они нечитабельны).
Наталья Ш.



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[elliott_urdang]

üÌÌÉÏÔÔ, ×ÁÛÉ ÔÅËÓÔÙ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÑÔ × ÒÕÓÌÁÎÔÒÕ × ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÅ ISO.
ðÏÐÒÏÂÕÊÔÅ ÎÅ ÍÅÛÁÔØ ÌÁÔÉÎÉÃÕ Ó ËÉÒÉÌÌÉÃÅÊ, Á ÐÒÉÓÌÁÔØ ÔÏÌØËÏ

ÒÕÓÓËÉÊ ÔÅËÓÔ

× ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÅ KOI-8 (ËÓÔÁÔÉ, ÍÎÅ ×ÁÛÉ ÔÅËÓÔÙ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ
ÐÅÒÅËÏÄÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ, ÉÎÁÞÅ ÏÎÉ ÎÅÞÉÔÁÂÅÌØÎÙ).
îÁÔÁÌØÑ û.

Natalie,

Thanks for the feedback.

However, I don't understand why this happens this way - so I had
better stop sending messages until I can get someone to help me set
this up properly.

I also don't understand how I can just use Cyrillic and not Latin
letters when I use a mixture of english and russian in my messages.

Best regards,

Elliott

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[Natalie Shahova]

Post by elliott_urdang
I also don't understand how I can just use Cyrillic and not Latin
letters when I use a mixture of english and russian in my messages.

Ваш английский текст мы получили уже несколько раз - его можно больше не
пересылать, а переслать только русский.(Я много раз сталкивалась с тем, что
смесь русского и английского портит кодировку.)
Наталья Ш.



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[elliott_urdang]

Post by elliott_urdang
I also don't understand how I can just use Cyrillic and not Latin
letters when I use a mixture of english and russian in my messages.

÷ÁÛ ÁÎÇÌÉÊÓËÉÊ ÔÅËÓÔ ÍÙ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌÉ ÕÖÅ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÒÁÚ - ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ ÎÅ
ÐÅÒÅÓÙÌÁÔØ, Á ÐÅÒÅÓÌÁÔØ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉÊ.(ñ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÒÁÚ ÓÔÁÌËÉ×ÁÌÁÓØ Ó

ÔÅÍ, ÞÔÏ

ÓÍÅÓØ ÒÕÓÓËÏÇÏ É ÁÎÇÌÉÊÓËÏÇÏ ÐÏÒÔÉÔ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÕ.)
îÁÔÁÌØÑ û

Thanks, Natalie,


ôÁËÉÍ ÏÂÒÁÚÏÍ, ÉÚÂÙÔÏÞÎÏÅ ÓÎÉÖÅÎÉÅ áä × ÎÁÞÁÌØÎÏÍ ÐÅÒÉÏÄÅ ÐÒÉÅÍÁ
ÁÎÔÉÁÎÇÉÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ÐÒÅÐÁÒÁÔÁ ÂÙÌÏ ÓÏÐÒÑÖÅÎÏ × ÄÁÌØÎÅÊÛÅÍ Ó Õ×ÅÌÉÞÅÎÉÅÍ
ÞÉÓÌÁ ÂÅÚÂÏÌÅ×ÙÈ ÜÐÉÚÏÄÏ× ÉÛÅÍÉÉ ÍÉÏËÁÒÄÁ ÎÁ 2 É ÂÏÌÅÅ (è2=32.26Þ
ÎÕ=1) ÌÉÂÏ ÎÁ 3 É ÂÏÌÅÅ (è2=32.26Þ ÎÕ=1 ).



×ÓÅÇÏ ÄÏÂÒÏÇÏ,

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[Aleksandr Okunev]

ИМХО не обязательно missing, да и значение меняется только
совсем немного, без первого "либо" начало (на 2 и более) основной
случай, а второе - изредка бывало, а при либо-либо они равноправны. Вы
знаете, как было на самом деле?

e> Таким образом, избыточное снижение АД в начальном периоде приема
e> антиангиального препарата было сопряжено в дальнейшем с увеличением
e> числа безболевых эпизодов ишемии миокарда на 2 и более (Х2=32.26ч
e> ну=1) либо на 3 и более (Х2=32.26ч ну=1 ).


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[Andrey Azov]

Post by Aleksandr Okunev
ИМХО не обязательно missing, да и значение меняется только
совсем немного, без первого "либо" начало (на 2 и более) основной
случай, а второе - изредка бывало, а при либо-либо они равноправны.

Вы

Post by Aleksandr Okunev
знаете, как было на самом деле?

Видели, как было на самом деле?

"Таким образом, избыточное снижение АД в начальном периоде приема
антиангиального препарата было сопряжено в дальнейшем НЕ ТОЛЬКО с
увеличением числа безболевых эпизодов ишемии миокарда на 2 и более
(Х2=32.26ч ну=1) либо на 3 и более (Х2=32.26ч ну=1 )."

;-)

Андрей

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[elliott_urdang]

éíèï ÎÅ ÏÂÑÚÁÔÅÌØÎÏ missing, ÄÁ É ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÅ ÍÅÎÑÅÔÓÑ ÔÏÌØËÏ
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ÚÎÁÅÔÅ, ËÁË ÂÙÌÏ ÎÁ ÓÁÍÏÍ ÄÅÌÅ?
e> ôÁËÉÍ ÏÂÒÁÚÏÍ, ÉÚÂÙÔÏÞÎÏÅ ÓÎÉÖÅÎÉÅ áä × ÎÁÞÁÌØÎÏÍ ÐÅÒÉÏÄÅ ÐÒÉÅÍÁ
e> ÁÎÔÉÁÎÇÉÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ÐÒÅÐÁÒÁÔÁ ÂÙÌÏ ÓÏÐÒÑÖÅÎÏ × ÄÁÌØÎÅÊÛÅÍ Ó Õ×ÅÌÉÞÅÎÉÅÍ
e> ÞÉÓÌÁ ÂÅÚÂÏÌÅ×ÙÈ ÜÐÉÚÏÄÏ× ÉÛÅÍÉÉ ÍÉÏËÁÒÄÁ ÎÁ 2 É ÂÏÌÅÅ (è2=32.26Þ
e> ÎÕ=1) ÌÉÂÏ ÎÁ 3 É ÂÏÌÅÅ (è2=32.26Þ ÎÕ=1 ).
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Aleksandr,

Andrey just sent you the correct version (one of my multiple
confusions today). As you can see, your suggestion that nothing was
missing is undoubtedly correct - in fact, to the contrary, there seems
to be an unnecessary "libo."

Also, "na samom dele," there were fewer cases of increase by 2 or more
episodes (just 2 cases), and more cases of 3 or more (9) cases.

Thanks very much.

Elliott.

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